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Did you see the new Star Trek movie? I did, this weekend. It had its share of flaws but I was too busy enjoying it to really care. A lot of folks seem to have very strong feelings about it. I’m a hardcore Trek fan, have been for thirty years or so. I feel like I should care more. But mostly I just want to watch it again and then see another sequel.
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Did you see the new Star Trek movie? I did, this weekend. It had its share of flaws but I was too busy enjoying it to really care. A lot of folks seem to have very strong feelings about it. I’m a hardcore Trek fan, have been for thirty years or so. I feel like I should care more. But mostly I just want to watch it again and then see another sequel.

Last chance for Centaurs and Malice shirts! Get ‘em while they exist.

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Q:But Ricardo Montalban IS a person of colour, they did not change the original scripted character to suit Ricardo Montalban A) because although he is a POC he is not Indian B) Khan was never Nordic where the hell did you even get that from? And you clearly put your post on here just to prove yourself right, you won't even consider an alternative you have a one track mind I.e. it's okay to whitewash because 'race doesn't matter', well that's easy for you to argue if it doesn't affect you.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh

“The character was originally conceived of as a Nordic superman by scriptwriter Carey Wilber before his ancestry was changed in script revisions”

http://io9.com/inside-secrets-of-the-making-of-star-trek-ii-wrath-of-457250013

“You’ve probably heard before that Khan was originally a Viking-type character, with blond hair. But the original villain of “Space Seed” wasn’t genetically enhanced, nor had he ruled any part of the Earth.

In Wilber’s original proposal, the Botany Bay contains a criminal named Harold Erickson, who’s a blond, Aryan character. “He wasn’t even a criminal with an empire, just a criminal,” says Tenuto. He wasn’t stronger than Kirk or particularly intelligent, and his power came purely from raw brutality and anger. Erickson’s plan is to defrost his gang, take over the Enterprise, and become space pirates.”

Why are you getting so angry with me? I think this is a legitimate discussion, please don’t attack me personally. I would never do the same to you.

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Q:The race of the character is important because they were written to be a person of colour, people of colour are already greatly underrepresented in the media, god forbid they should want to get cast in the role of characters that were originally written for them, the horror! Like white people are gonna be at a disadvantage from it anyway there are still plenty of roles for them, it wouldn't even make a dent

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The character was originally conceived of and written as Nordic, and was changed to Indian when they cast Ricardo Montalban. That doesn’t jive with what you’re telling me.

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Q:Did they have to portray him in this supposed alternate universe as a supercharged terrorist? Did they HAVE to? Regardless of race terrorism is a very touchy subject anyway :/ I'm aware of things like typecasting but that only brings me back to the point of why did they bring khan back in the first place

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The point of whether or not they should have brought him back is irrelevant. They did, it happened, let’s move on. I’m not interested in discussing it.

Since they did bring him back, the character was originally conceived of as a terrorist, should they have made him a candy store owner instead?

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Q:If they didn't bring Khan back at all then this wouldn't even be a problem right now, jj Abrams should have left well alone :/ and yes race is important, it's easy if you're not a POC because most non-POC people can't even see a problem with whitewashing to begin with! And the talent of the actor doesn't matter, I hate that justification as if there aren't any POC who are equally just as talented, how can you say they aren't when they can't even audition for major roles? Hollywood is backwards

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Why is the race of this particular character important? Would you have preferred a Sikh be cast in a major motion picture as a supercharged terrorist? 

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